S E53: Reddit Stories + Dropping Lore with Cam + Rach

Is your mic on?

It is on.

Okay, great.

Was a turkey.

What's the turkey?

Did it work?

Can you.

Is it showing that it's hearing me?

I think so.

Yeah.

Yep, they're both connected.

Okay, great.

Hello, welcome back to the True Group podcast.

Hello, Rachel.

Hello, Cameron.

You are my husband.

You are my wife.

I.

And we're gonna read some.

Jinx.

Dang it.

Oh, I broke it.

Rage, rage, rage.

I'm.

Thank you.

I'm victorious over the jinx, which, oh, our four year old yesterday was trying to understand.

He did not understand jinx, but he was trying really hard to make it happen.

He thought he could just say the same word twice and jinx me.

And so we were trying to explain to him that's not how that works.

And he just, he was like, that's not fair.

Like, it's not fair.

That's too hard.

Like, yeah, no, you're not going to get a jinx all the time.

And so eventually we demonstrated a jinx for him where we said the same thing at the same time.

Jinx, cam, cam, cam.

And then I did it with him, but I jinxed him instead.

And he was flabbergasted.

Like, he was not prepared for me to jinx him.

Um, but it was really cute.

But anyways, so we are going to read some Reddit stories today for the very first time.

I think you're reading Reddit stories.

I'm reading Reddit stories to you, but together we are going to consume them.

I am listening to Reddit stories and.

I do want to put a little disclaimer out there.

We are reading from a Christian perspective.

However, that does not mean that all of the stories will be 100% safe for children.

There's pretty much the.

The lens that I'm looking through is.

Or the filter I'm using is there will never be any, like, explicit sexual content in them.

Sexual themes, primarily.

There may be.

There may be like, some, I guess, some sexual themes, but nothing's going to be, like, overt.

But there may be some rude language.

Oh, there may be some scandalous little, like, vulgar moments on occasion.

I just picked the ones that I was like, ooh, I think this could be a good conversation and highlight healthy or negative relationship dynamics.

Okay, so this is not like Christian Reddit stories for Christians.

Ding.

It's.

Hey, these are stories.

I want to know, where was that?

Ding.

Was it like on a tooth?

Was it in an eye?

It was like a wink.

Oh, it was a wink.

Okay, I gotcha.

Ding.

Okay, there we go.

Thank you.

For clarifying, I wanted to know what the listener should picture.

You have to paint a picture, and you're doing that.

And I thank you.

I thank you for your service.

You're welcome.

All right, should we dig in here?

Yeah.

Okay, so what do, like, what do service members do?

What do they say when they're like, thank you for your service?

They say, you're welcome.

I don't know.

I'm not a service.

That would be like, a strange thing.

Like, I think thank you for your service.

Like, oh, you're welcome.

You got it, bro.

I. I feel like if it was me, I'd be like, I didn't do it for you.

Like, Like, I wasn't.

I wasn't considering you.

We appreciate service members.

Yeah.

Oh, of course.

The ones who are operating within their scopes of authority.

I'm just curious.

Moral.

I'm just curious.

Like, I've heard other, like, podcasts talk about this, which is like, what do you say?

Or like, okay, I would imagine it would be the same dynamic as when someone is singing Happy Birthday to you on your birthday, where you're just like, I don't really know how to respond.

Like, thank you.

But also, I'd really rather not be doing that.

There was this right now, one video that we just saw recently together that was like.

Like, oh, what you're supposed to do on your birthday is video the people singing to you.

Yeah.

Like, oh, yeah.

So now everyone else just has to be as.

Feels awkward.

When you're watching this video, at least they're doing something.

They're performing.

They do like a little.

A little shimmy, a little.

A quick jazz square.

Yeah.

If you are not comfortable with either of those things, jazz hands are always an option.

Okay, I demonstrate.

Frustrated.

All of those, by the way, I just want you to know.

Okay.

So I created a spreadsheet.

Ooh, I don't know if I'm going to be able to fancy do it on my phone.

Very well.

I may need to go grab my computer, but let's try to pull up sheets because something I've seen other, like, Reddit podcasts run into is the stories get deleted and so they can't refresh looking for new comments without losing the post potentially.

And so what I did is I copied all of the content from the post and included that in a note in my spreadsheet.

The post get deleted.

They can.

Yeah.

Reddit.

I need to set the scene.

Okay.

Set the scene for us.

Rachel's sitting on a couch.

I'm sitting on a separate couch.

That's perpendicular.

Laying on it like a.

Like you would in a therapist's office.

Although I've.

I've been in therapy for a long time and I've never laid on a couch.

I've never laid on a couch.

But I also have only been to in person therapy one time before COVID started.

I was in in person refer therapy for quite some time in my YouTube office.

I forgot about my first therapist.

Oh, and my second therapist.

Wait, hold on.

I'm wrong.

My first therapist was in my office at YouTube.

Yes, she was.

She was just downstairs for trauma purposes.

Yes.

Yeah.

All right.

It was great.

Ready for the first one?

I'm ready.

We're gonna open this link.

My ears are open.

Okay, so this is in.

Am I the A hole?

Okay, I'm.

So I've decided I'm not going to say the swear words.

I'm not going to, like, completely cut them out, but I'll say, like, F word.

Say the letter B word.

I remember.

We can say it in our heads and be the ones imagining the bad word.

There is this distinct memory that I have of being in middle school.

I went to a very small, very Christian school.

And I remember trying to, like, there was like this guidance counselor kind of figure.

I don't know exactly what her title was, but she was like the confidant for all of us girls.

And so I remember there was like, an issue going on with some of my friends, and I was sitting in her office with another one of my friends trying to explain the situation because my friend, who was like the target, was too upset.

So I was trying to explain on the friend's behalf, and I was.

I was trying to, like, diplomatically explain that this friend had called her the B word.

But in my nervousness, I.

And I just.

I just was like.

She called her the bitch word.

Straight up.

Said it.

Anyway, I continued on.

It was.

I felt so.

I remember feeling so.

Just like I am so grown and I am in control of the situation.

I am a seventh grader and I am here to make things right.

Oh, man.

Middle schoolers.

Middle schoolers.

Which at that point, when I was in the seventh grade, I was a.

Small group leader of sixth grade boys.

And then we went to a camp for like a weekend, and they ended up.

I let them, like, snort Pexi stick powder.

I think you may have just admitted to a crime, maybe.

Which.

How old were you at that point?

Oh, I was in high school.

You were?

I was a minor.

Yeah.

Yeah, probably.

No, I wasn't 18 until I got to college.

I said you were a senior, not.

You were 18.

Oh, no.

I mean, I was maybe a junior.

Sophomore.

Junior.

Somewhere in there.

You're five grades ahead of me.

So when I was in seventh grade.

Babe, I'm not saying that the kids were your age.

I know.

I'm saying that I think.

Oh, you're talking about when you were in seventh grade.

I was in seventh grade.

Okay.

When you were in seventh grade, I was.

Yeah.

Senior.

Yeah.

That weirds me out.

Yeah.

So I was 17.

I remember the seniors coming in to visit my seventh grade English class and being like, these are like grown adults.

I was almost an adult, technically.

I would look back on me then saying I was a tiny little kid.

But I look at seniors now, and I'm like, you are a baby.

Go back to preschool.

You are not ready for the world.

You need a nap.

But if anyone would have tried me, like, try me.

Anyone would have tried me.

Try to step up on you.

What does that mean?

That was such a Schmidt move.

All day.

All day.

This is so fun.

Little tidbit about me is.

So my former sister in law, who was also my best friend for, like, 10 years, used to joke that her brother, who I was married to, was basically Schmidt from New Girl.

And then Schmidt on your face.

Storm ring.

So an actor.

So an actor.

Can't put my driving moccasins anywhere.

We haven't gotten to a story yet.

No, we haven't.

I'm probably gonna have to cut most of this out or, like, put it at the end or something.

Maybe I'll do that.

Maybe I'll have, like an epilogue.

This is the intro.

There you go.

We'll have to do the, like.

We're just sending the sound effect.

We need our own sound effect for the next.

When Oliver was saying it was his sound effect.

Yes.

Yeah.

We were at gymnastics yesterday with our little guy to watch his sister, and he was telling his mom about his sound effect, which is hilarious.

It.

It's so cute.

I love that he's owning it, but.

You can have it.

Yeah, he can have it.

It can be passed down through the generations.

Yeah, it's probably.

Tim's actually my best friend since I was, like, 3 years old.

Can you.

Can you do one for us?

Yeah.

Can you do the scream?

There's a lot of sound effects that happen in our house.

It's just like all full stem all the time.

Yeah, that's actually not even.

That's.

That's.

That's Brian.

Me and Tim making fun of Brian Scream.

Right Yeah, I know.

I know the lore.

I'm up on my Cameron lore.

There's a myth back here.

We should just send this to them.

Hey, guys, Shout out.

We talked about you on our podcast.

But anyways, so my former sister in law used to joke that I was married to Schmidt, and then I married Cameron.

Well, okay, there was a divorce in there.

That's important.

Yeah.

I then was divorced by her brother and married a different man.

Who is the spitting image.

Well, you used to be before you.

Before I corrected you.

And you.

Your hair out.

Got some facial piercings.

But no, now.

Now anytime I see a picture of Schmidt, I'm like, yeah, that's what Cameron.

Used to look like.

Husband.

More or less.

Yeah.

When you were in your, like, preppy guy era.

Yeah.

So we.

It pretty quickly after we started dating.

You pierced your ears.

Yep.

Yeah.

Tattoos day.

Yeah.

Body Mod Tuesday.

Body Mod Tuesday.

Body Mod Tuesday.

We.

So this was when we were quotes.

Friends.

Just friends.

Because when we met, we were like, okay, we want to make sure we're both, like, fully biblically free to date.

And we didn't want to rush into anything.

And so we were going to be just friends.

And on this one day, I was going to be going to get my hand tattoo and Cam came with me and had been talking about getting his ears pierced for a while, tried to convince me to pierce them for him during a chemo week.

I was like, would have been fine.

They.

They got infected later.

But that was separate.

That was.

That was unrelated.

Cameron Gibbons, if I would have pierced your ears on a chemo week and then you got a severe infection, I. I would have felt like it was my fault.

But anyways, so he goes with me to get this hand tattoo and then is like, you know what?

I'm gonna get my ears pierced at the mall.

And that's what we did.

And we called it Body Mod Tuesday.

And we've had several more body mod days since then.

I still go to that place at the mall because it's actually really good.

Actually really great.

Except for the part where the girl was piercing my lip and then dropped the needle.

She was like, oh, man, it's just not my day.

And I'm like, am I sure I want to have you still have me in the today?

I still did it.

Yeah.

I love it.

I love my lip ring.

But yeah, we've.

She was like, trying to get.

It was like the.

Something was already through your lip.

No.

And like, not yet.

She.

She had already clamped it.

Oh, she had clamped it.

She'd clamped it, but she was, like, getting the needle out, and I was.

Like, felt a cartoon.

Yeah.

And then the, like, running noise to.

Go get a new one.

Yeah, exactly.

But no.

So some of our.

Some of our fun, spontaneous dates have been, hey, do you want to go get a piercing at the mall?

Or give each other tattoos?

Or give each other tattoos.

We're setting a bad example.

Don't.

Don't do that.

Kids, don't get married in less than six months.

Don't get tattoos and piercings unless.

Unless you want to.

And you're over 18 right now.

And you're over 18.

Don't have sex.

Don't have sex in the missionary position.

Don't have sex ending up from the office.

We'll get pregnant and die.

Just don't do it.

All right, everybody grab some rubbers.

Is this from the office?

No, it's from Mean Girls.

Oh, okay.

Well, on that note, we should probably move into our first story on a spreadsheet.

Yeah.

So our first Reddit story is from.

Am I the a hole?

Am I the a hole for making my daughter's boyfriend buy a new shirt?

Okay, can you please settle a mild dispute for my family?

23rd December, my daughter's 19 boyfriend, 19, came for dinner.

We had a dinner then because he's going away with his family for Christmas.

He arrived, rang the bell, and I answered the door.

He came in, took off his jacket, and that's when I saw he was wearing a T shirt that said it's not gonna blank itself, referring to oral activities.

Oh.

I took one look at the shirt and asked him if he had any money.

He said no and asked why.

I told him that the shirt showed a marked lack of respect for both my daughter and my wife.

I pulled two twenties out of my wallet and quietly ushered him out the door and towards the Walmart three miles away and told him to buy a more respectful shirt and come back with it on.

Mind you, this whole exchange took place between him and I without an audience.

He was gone for 15 minutes, came back with a nice polo shirt on.

We had a nice dinner together, and nothing was mentioned of the incident.

The next day, my daughter came to me and he mother.

Oh, her mother.

The next day, my daughter came to me and her mother and told us what I did.

Humiliated him.

They aren't in breakup territory or anything.

And no yelling or anything of the sort went on.

My wife did tell me I could have handled it different.

So, Reddit, am I wrong for handling this this way?

And if so, how Could I have handled it?

This is interesting.

So wait, what is.

What did the shirt say again?

It's not gonna blank itself.

I was like, does this mean something different?

No, it's a reference to exactly what you're thinking it is.

Okay, so this 19 year old kid.

Nothing else on the shirt, Nothing else.

Just in words.

Just rocks up to your house here to have dinner with you, your daughter and your wife in a shirt that says it's not going to blink itself.

Man, I don't.

I don't think that's so terrible.

Yeah, it's your house.

You paid for.

For him to go get a different shirt.

Maybe don't own a shirt like that or wear it to your girlfriend's parents house.

That's just a very poor decision.

And.

Oh, absolute.

My mind.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You.

You're.

He's embarrassed because he embarrassed himself.

Well, if that isn't the consequences of my own action.

Yeah, that's just a very.

That's a 19 year old boy thing to do.

Apparently 19 is a very bad age to be engaged.

When I was 19.

That's very early.

That's too young.

Yes.

19 is babies.

Yes.

I will die on this hill.

19 is babies.

I was 23 when you were 19.

Yes, you are.

Mm.

That is now the second time we.

Because we are four years apart.

If anyone has trouble with math, we've.

Mentioned our very slight age gap.

Yeah, it's not that bad, but sometimes it does feel strange.

Yeah.

I think the weirdest one for me is when I realized that you're older than my big brother, who I've always viewed as just so old.

And then I put the math together one day and I was like, oh, my husband is.

Older than your big brother.

Older than my big brother.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You are the same age gap from my brother that I am from my age gap.

You are the same age gap from my brother that I am from my brother.

Like, he is older than I am.

Wait, what do I say?

You're saying the amount of stroke you're at, the age gap between you and your brother is the same as the age gap between you and your brother?

I think is what you just said.

Okay, hold on, let me focus.

The age gap you were.

You're trying to say the age gap between you and your brother is the same age gap between.

Between your brother and me?

Yes.

Yes.

And that's so weird.

That was the weirdest one for me.

Okay.

But anyways.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

So unintelligent decision.

We do have consequences of your Actions.

Several updates.

Oh, several updates.

Several Updates.

Edit.

I'm 57 and a long haul truck driver, so I've had my share of bad moments.

Most of us guys here can remember doing stupid things as a teen, even into our 20s.

The ones that stand out for me are the ones where someone didn't react with anger or malice.

They were the ones that someone reacted with constructive kindness.

One where a quiet redemption was offered, where a mirror was quietly held up to my behavior.

Those are the ones I learned from and appreciated the most.

Hopefully he comes out the other side with a new appreciation for kindness offered quietly and without fanfare.

Just my thoughts.

Okay, I skipped this earlier.

I did not see all that.

This guy is.

Oh, awesome.

He's holding nothing against this boyfriend.

This is a wonderful father and also a wonderful, like, person to have in the role of, like, the person you're dating's dad.

Yeah.

Like, I feel like that can be such an impactful relationship, for better or worse.

Right?

And.

Oh, okay, I love this.

Any thoughts you want to share before I reach you the second update?

I think that, like, if you are, like, we have a daughter.

I'm terrified for her to start dating.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

But I also know that, like, If you want to change someone's behavior, tell them you telling them you have a shotgun by the door or a shovel or whatever is not gonna do it.

Oh, absolutely.

It will do nothing.

It's gonna be more like this.

This.

This guy.

Oh, for sure, right?

Like, it's gonna be this guy that's like, showing respect to him as, like, yes, he's 19.

He's gonna view himself as a man.

And, like, if you challenge him, he's likely to challenge you back.

Honestly, and I didn't even think of this until this moment.

This feels like the way that Jesus would handle something, something like this.

Holding a mirror up to his behavior and with grace, allowing him to make a better choice in a way that doesn't shame him.

And listen, he went to Walmart.

He didn't just buy a random T shirt, he bought a polo.

He bought a nice shirt.

He bought, like, a college shirt that.

So easily could have been, like, turned into a power struggle.

Yeah, he could have bought an even worse shirt.

Yep.

He didn't go with him to Walmart to, like, pick out what was appropriate.

Or just been like, hey, screw you, you're not going to tell me what I can and can't wear like this so easily.

Could have gone a completely different way, but okay, there's more, there's more.

Okay, okay, Update.

Update number one.

So, okay, that was the.

Like edit.

This is update.

Okay, one.

So wait, how did the girlfriend.

Girl.

The girlfriend and the mom said the boyfriend was embarrassed.

Humiliated.

Yeah, humiliated.

So he must have told his girlfriend and girlfriend told mom.

No, it said the girlfriend came to the husband.

The.

The dad.

Op.

Yeah, she came to op and her mom.

So op and mom are together.

Yeah.

Daughter comes and talks.

Daughter says he's humiliated or says her boyfriend was humiliated.

Okay, okay.

So he was very upset by that.

Yes.

So it sounds like dad offered this gesture and this is how he's looking at it.

Boyfriend is humiliated.

Okay, okay, update number one.

After reading these comments and listening to everyone's points of view, I sat my daughter down this morning and asked what her boyfriend actually said to her.

This.

Okay, this dad is chef's kiss.

This changes my opinion of him.

Apparently he'd not told my daughter what the phrase was on the T shirt, but did tell her accurately what I said to him and asked him to do.

He didn't use the word humiliated.

That was daughter's interpretation.

Her rush to defend him came from our examples.

Apparently she's took note of times I've defended my wife and vice versa.

She also took note of our disagreements in private after the fact.

She is going to talk to him when he gets back tomorrow to follow up on why he thought the shirt was appropriate for the family setting.

I'll update again after the conversation.

Oh, okay.

That's kind of what I was thinking.

And asking about is like, did he say he was humiliated?

So it sounds like he didn't.

No.

But he painted a picture where it was like, your dad did this but didn't really tell her why.

Oh, dun dun dun.

The plot thickens.

The plot does thicken.

And now another update.

Another.

Yes, update number two.

My daughter called him about an hour ago and this will be informative.

She asked him why he'd not told her what the shirt said when he talked to her.

His reply was telling because it was embarrassing.

Then she went on to ask him why he wore it originally and he admitted that the shirt had been a gift from his older brother, 21, and the older brother had dared him to called him chicken when he objected.

Etc, Dumb sibling crap.

Apparently she went on to tell him that none of what he'd done was cool and that she really liked him and that he'd always been kind to her.

She said she what?

She wasn't breaking up with him, but that these steps needed to be done first.

He needed to explain to his parents, the entire situation.

Second, he needed to show up in person to our home and bring the money for the shirt.

And as she put it, put in a whole lot of butt kissing that included the explanation of the dare.

Etc.

She said that if it was handled well, they could talk about moving forward and what that looked like.

After the phone call, she talked to her mom and I and admitted that she forgot her worth.

She said that I, as long as she'd been alive, had never gone out of my way to embarrass her mom and that I'd always been respectful and not let anyone be disrespectful to her mom.

Made me feel good, so she wasn't going to settle for less.

Good for her.

I'll update after his visit later tomorrow afternoon.

Oh wow, this is such a great picture of what great parenting does for a young girl.

Like, she's like, oh no, no, no, you're not gonna act like this.

Like she's not berating him, but she's like, yeah, no, this needs to be handled right.

And like I am worth more than you showing up to my parents house in a inappropriate T shirt.

Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

Like this is a girl who knows her worth and I. Oh, I love this.

Okay, update number three.

Oh, did you also include comments?

We can look at some comments.

Okay, great.

I'd love to look at comments.

Update number three.

This will make those of you following this saga laugh.

I received a call this evening from Mr. Boyfriend's parents.

First, they are mortified and extremely apologetic.

Secondly, and the whole best part of this update, I have their permission to squeal, is that his parents are on Reddit and commented on my post in support of the way I handled the situation.

Oh my God.

They told me that they love my daughter and and that we'd raised her right and had not raised their son to show this level of disrespect for anyone, let alone his girlfriend.

Apparently, boyfriend was following up on one of my daughter's conditions and went to talk to his parents.

As the story unfolded, his mom reached for her phone, opened Reddit and yelled, is this about you?

I love it.

I know.

To quote his dad as the son read the first half paragraph, he died a little inside.

So anyways, they are going to come to dinner tomorrow evening with boyfriend.

More updates tomorrow night.

Ooh, this is just.

This is like a whole saga.

I love it.

Like how these parents, like, okay, I'm honestly learning about how to handle situations.

Yeah, A parent.

Because like both sides, these parents are like, no Absolutely.

Not to this behavior.

But handling it in such a constructive way.

Yeah.

They're not shaming.

Yeah.

They're not screaming.

They're not like, just punishing.

They're going, okay, yeah, so we're not gonna do that.

Let's do something else.

Yeah.

And providing an opportunity without shame to actually change behavior.

Right.

Like that.

And honestly, I think the fact that, like, the sun.

Both sons.

Well, I guess we don't know about the older boy, the older brother, but I think it's telling you that they.

They're not fighting and making everything worse.

And that tell.

I think that says a lot about these families because, like, you're 19, you could be screaming that you're an adult and you don't have to do what your parents tell you to.

That's true.

I didn't even think.

And they're not.

Yeah, yeah.

They're just kind of like, okay.

They're like, yeah, we.

I screwed up.

Yeah, sorry.

Which in a case like this, I think is completely appropriate.

Like the fact that the parents are stepping in and like.

No, no.

The parents are, like, providing guidance here.

Oh, yeah.

Because it's not in a toxic way.

It's not in an overbearing way.

It's in a demonstrating and enforcing healthy behavior kind of a way.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, are you ready for the next update?

Yes.

Okay.

All right.

There are two more updates.

Oh, this is the secret, isn't it?

Okay.

Okay, well.

Okay, update four.

Dinner was very pleasant.

Let me say that these parents are great.

Boyfriend showed up with red roses for my daughter and yellow roses for my wife.

Oh.

He offered what I thought was a very sincere apology and a card with the entire $40 in it, even though he'd given me the change and receipt on the original night.

Oh, yeah.

A lot of these details I did not see right away.

I cooked tonight to give my wife a break.

I made an Indian dish called butter chicken with basmati rice.

Neither had eaten curry before, but loved it.

Oh, my gosh.

I know.

Woohoo.

Okay, this dad is adorable.

As it turns out, older brother is the family athlete.

Jv Soccer.

Varsity soccer.

And a sports scholarship for him, the quintessential jock.

Little brother is the exact opposite.

Artistic, he's got real talent.

Sensitive, quiet, and felt like he never measured up to big brother and works to gain big brother's respect.

Brother takes full example.

I think he meant advantage.

Brother takes full advantage of this and exploits his little brother for kicks and giggles.

Near the end of dinner, daughter says, I think I'll keep Him around for a little longer.

You guys okay with that?

We are good with that for now.

His mom is the boss, though, for thinking outside the box.

As punishment to older brother, mom went into his clothing drawers and closet, took every shirt off of him, and bought him eight very pink T shirts that fell there.

Until he realizes just how damaging exploiting someone, anyone, is, his access to cash is also cut off until said lesson is learned.

Anyway, a successful night with new friends was enjoyed.

Hope this was the update you hoped.

I don't know how I feel about.

Wait, doesn't.

Doesn't.

Does the older brother not have a job?

I.

Okay, wait, the older brother, I think, was 21, right?

Yeah, I think that.

Yeah.

Older brother is 21.

I wonder what the situation is here, because, like, if someone's still completely dependent on their parents.

19 and 21.

I was dependent on my parents then.

I was in college.

Yeah.

Were your parents, like, in charge of your clothes, though, at that point?

No, I didn't live at home.

Okay.

I think that's my only.

Like, my parents are technically paying for my apartment, but.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, I mean, I think it's pretty funny to, like, make a point of, no, you're gonna wear this pink T shirt.

I don't know how okay.

It is to, like, enforce that with a grown adult.

Yeah, that would be.

That would take some thinking.

Yeah.

And what to do with the older brother, because it's also like, yeah, he's.

He's being a terrible example for his brother, his younger brother.

But it sounds like this is probably an ongoing issue that he has not learned about.

Yeah.

So, I mean, obviously, we've only dealt with small children.

Yeah.

So it's really easy for us to go like, oh, this was not the correct way to handle this.

I don't know if that's how older parents talk.

Parenting an adult.

An adult child would be, I think, very challenging.

That would be intense.

Especially when you see them, like, making decisions that you would not make.

I was thinking about that today, for whatever reason.

Yeah.

Like, when I was 21, I had been married for two years.

Like, what I think I was proposing at 21.

Yeah.

Which my parents should probably have said.

Something my parents did.

And I still was like, no, I'm gonna marry this guy.

But I got a really cool kid.

Yeah, you got really two.

You got two really cool kids out of it.

Really cool kids.

And also, if we hadn't had our exact stories happen the way that they did, we never would have gotten married.

That would have been bum city.

Bum city, dude.

Hold on.

I'm freezing.

I need to go get my hoodie.

Is it really cold in here?

No.

I'm so cold.

Is one of the windows still open?

That one.

I closed that.

Oh, yeah.

The other.

Okay.

I think I closed the other one, too.

Did you?

I think so.

It's still just kind of chilly.

I'm also gonna put the lava cakes in.

Oh, yes, we have lava cakes.

Okay.

Am I still.

I'm probably still being recorded.

What?

Nothing.

For some reason, I don't know why, but just.

I don't know why.

What came to mind was that scene from Mulan where, like, they're singing the.

Like, I'll make a man out of you.

And she climbs like the pole to get the arrow at the top.

Yeah.

Oh, I guess you know why?

Probably it's because in that song, they're like.

Yeah.

You must be swift as a coursing river.

Yeah, man.

With all the force of a great time be your man.

Raging fire Mysterious as the dark side of the moon.

Do you remember so good when we were still just friends in the car?

Not in the car, no.

What are you talking about?

Maya, he may.

Okay, so this is a true story.

One of the reasons that I knew Cameron was the man that I was going to marry.

We were in the car driving.

And this was before we were dating.

So the song, it's actually called Drago State and Day.

But it's like the song is like my he, my who, my my.

Ha ha.

Yep.

And so fun.

Little part of my lore is I used to just, like, listen to foreign techno music a lot for some reason.

And one song that's like.

That one.

Yeah, Yeah, exactly.

And so anyway, so we're just, like, driving around one night listening to music.

Why were we driving around?

I don't know.

We were just driving.

We weren't going anywhere.

I don't know.

I don't know what we were doing.

So I'm driving down these country roads this stranger I met on the Internet in the dark.

Yeah, yeah.

It was late.

And so this song, Drago Sedente, comes on and mind you, I have been.

I picked it.

Did you?

It was because it was after Dive.

Was it?

Okay, after Stephen Kurtis chapter.

Okay, well, yeah.

So Cameron turns on this song.

We were, like, taking turns picking songs and, like, jamming out.

And he turns on this song and proceeds to sing it in perfect.

What.

What language even is it?

I don't know.

Romanian.

Romanian.

Along with me in perfect Romanian.

Because I have known this song for most of My life.

And I. I was like.

I'm just like.

You would have been in, like, elementary school.

No, I. I found the song in, like, middle school.

Okay.

Because.

Yeah, I. I remember it was, like, sixth grade.

Yeah.

And so I'm just, like, looking at this man singing in Romania next to me, and I'm like, I'm gonna marry him.

And then I did.

Yeah.

Like a couple months later and a half months later.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yep.

But that was after I had already played Stephen Curtis Chapman, which also did the same thing.

Yeah, basically.

So if you want to marry a great woman, play good music, play the.

You just have to stalk them beforehand excessively to find out their.

Their music.

Don't stop them excessively.

That's illegal or at all.

Maybe a little bit.

In today's society, you have to be so careful.

You're just over here poisoning the mind of America's youth.

We don't even.

How are you listening to this podcast?

Youths.

Street youths.

These are you, the youths from the statistics.

That was a New Girl reference.

We watch New Girl or we have watched New Girl quite a lot.

Cameron knows, like, every single scene.

Okay.

We are so far off track.

Yeah.

How did we even get talking about this?

We were singing.

Oh, right.

Mulan.

Right.

The Mulan thing.

Okay.

So do you remember?

Yeah.

And then we'll get back to the story.

I promise.

I'll have to put, like, a little, like, marker of, like, chapter marker.

We got lost on a tangent.

Because I feel like some people might enjoy the tangents, other people might not.

Yeah.

But anyways, do you remember this was when we were still just friends, when we were still very much trying to keep things platonic, like, fighting so hard to keep things platonic.

Because I knew I liked him.

He knew he liked me.

I knew he liked me.

He knew I liked him.

But we were trying so hard to keep things platonic so that we wouldn't immediately get clouded by, like, romantic feelings.

So.

So we could hear God clearly.

Oxytocin.

Oxytocin.

We were doing a Bible study together.

We were doing a Bible study together.

But no, we were on a focus block and we were texting.

Because in the same room.

No, we weren't in the same room.

I was up in my apartment.

But we were on a focus block together, which was like, a virtual co working thing that we used to do.

And.

Because we both worked remotely.

Yeah, because we both worked remotely.

And I remember I would text you, and then I would, like, look at you in the zoom, and then I would see you, like Smile.

And I was like, oh, shoot.

I like this guy so much.

I remember texting Katie just like, k, you're so cute.

She's like, good.

Like, no, that's not good.

I can't like this guy.

She's like, do it, do it.

She's like, like, him, do it.

But no.

And so we were talking about.

I forget what we were talking about, But I quoted I'll make a man out of you.

And you were like, you're making this really difficult.

And I was like, oh, I'm sorry.

And you were like, no.

Like, that's the point is you're just being you.

And as adorable.

And I was like, I don't know how to respond to that.

Like, I can't.

Okay, I'll try to, like, not have my personality.

And you were like, yeah, this is a problem.

And I was like, yeah, this is a problem.

And then we got married and it was fine.

Okay, what's the story?

What's the Reddit story reading?

Okay, Is there comments?

We're not even done with the updates yet.

My guys.

What?

I thought the story was over.

No, we have one more little update.

Small update.

Okay.

They got married.

I hope not 19.

I am taking the hard line stance that 19 is too young to get married.

Okay.

Anyway, as someone who got married like two months after turning 20, like.

Okay, okay.

Small date number five.

What Cameron is referencing is so.

Oh, this is so much lore that I'm about to have to drop right now.

Okay, I will.

I.

That's a deep track.

We'll have to do just like a lore drop.

Yeah, a whole episode.

That would be.

I think that's what this is at this point.

This is turning into a lore drop also.

Just like a regular evening conversation.

Yes, it is.

This is a normal.

A daily life with raging.

With raging Cam.

There you go.

But so what Cam is referencing is there is a video of me where I was recording myself recording a rap for him.

That's a whole long story.

It was for our surprise wedding that he didn't know about.

That's an even longer story.

So you'll just have to tuning in.

I knew we were getting married.

I did not know when married.

You did not know?

Well, you thought you.

I thought I knew when you were wrong.

But I was surprised by it being early anyways.

And so in this video, I like, my brain short circuited and I was like, hi, Nukuna.

And I made her cut the video.

I didn't make isis.

I asked you to cut the video so that we just Had a.

Like, a really short video of just her mispronouncing the word.

Yeah.

So now anytime either of us messes up a word which is frequent.

Yep.

Hi, Nuka Una.

Okay, take like seven.

Action.

Okay, small update number five.

Just to give you some info, Older brother has been much better for the last bit and actually enjoys the pink shirts.

Apparently his girlfriend likes them and he's gotten a few compliments.

My lovely daughter is more than ready to go back for her spring semester.

Boyfriend has been around the house more and has been very respectful.

The two of them read the comments here, and she teases him.

I know they're technically adults, but my wife and I insist on the door being open in any room they occupy together.

Nothing is derailing her education.

Her and her older brother are amazing scholars, and we are immensely proud of them.

My wife is a teacher with 30 years experience, and I'm a truck driver for 25 years.

But I'm also educated with a degree in clinical psychology.

Anyway, rambling.

Take care.

Talk about a lore drop.

What?

Okay, so like, that makes a lot of sense that.

Yeah, this guy is like a clinically trained psychologist.

Okay, well, it sounds like he hasn't potentially practiced in clinic in quite some time.

But he's trained as a clinic.

He has a degree.

Yeah, Degree in clinical psychology.

Wow.

Okay, so we got like a little.

That was like a Stranger Things ask Happily ever after for everybody.

Spoiler alert.

I guess there.

Well, I guess not everybody.

Well, kind of everybody got a happily ever after in Stranger Things.

Most people did.

We didn't hear much about her older brother.

He just kind of appeared at the end there.

What?

Who?

They said her and her older brother are scholars.

Oh, oh, oh.

And I was talking about Stranger Things.

You were talking about what we were supposed to be talking about?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it sounds like the parents are very proud.

Where was he this whole time?

Maybe off studying, since he's such a scholar.

Doing things in the background.

Just like Abed.

Yeah, exactly.

Delivering babies.

Delivering babies.

DMing.

Having.

Writing.

Having a whole side quest.

Yep.

There in the background.

Doing this and that.

Exactly, exactly.

Do we have another.

Oh, wait, do you have comments?

We have some comments.

Oh, yeah.

I want to hear what Reddit has to say.

All right.

You were very classy about it and even gave him the opportunity to get a new shirt instead of just going home and changing.

Not the a hole.

Yeah, I agree with that assessment.

Yeah, he could have sent him back home.

Don't know how far away he lives, but he could have just been like.

Nope, someone said, probably spent 15 on the shirt, so he's probably up 25, too.

But, no, we ended up finding out that change and a receipt were given, which I feel like doing that voluntarily speaks to the kid's character.

I'm like, hey, I'm giving you the change and proving how much I spent.

Like, this was so clearly an oversight that he was goaded into by his brother.

Yeah.

But, like, how it was handled was just.

It was such, like, a safe place to have a learning opportunity.

Yeah.

So now the next time this kid gets corrected, instead of, like, bracing for impact, he's gonna be more open to being corrected in the future because it wasn't a damaging experience.

Yeah.

We just talked about this.

Yeah.

In the last podcast about, like, adults admitting they're wrong and changing their opinion.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Being able to admit you were wrong and change your opinion when new and better information is presented is a skill like, very few people have, but is so important and really difficult to actually learn how to do.

Okay, so there's, like, a couple comments where people are, like, missing the point.

Okay.

There's no way he would have been allowed to wear that shirt at my dinner table.

So it's kind of just, like, taking this tone of, like, well, this.

If I was involved in this situation and so.

And someone responded to him going, you're a kinder man than me, I'd have turned his butt around and sent him to the car after making sure he wasn't going to come around again, like, okay, so you're saying that you would have handled this in a less healthy way.

Yeah.

Like, come out of the house.

All right.

You're all nicer than my dad would have been.

My dad would have just made a show of going to his gun cabinet.

Yeah.

This is like, why is this a thing?

Why is that better?

Yeah.

Why is that a better option here?

You realize if you kick a teenager out, you're creating an environment for them to rebel instead of teaching them what they should do.

Yeah.

In an environment that they are able to admit they're wrong.

Like, this is basically saying, you know what I would have done?

I would have removed the learning opportunity and made sure that everything went as poorly as possible.

Like, what.

Because that makes me feel like a man.

Chill.

How would.

What would Jesus do?

What would Jesus do?

Jesus would turn this into a learning opportunity, which I. I very strongly feel that the majority of how this was handled is, like, how Jesus would handle the situation.

Okay, so this commenter says, my father would have lost his stuff we'd probably spent the entire night trying to calm him down.

He's not a particularly angry dude, but that's just dang insulting.

If you have to spend an entire evening calming down your fully adult father.

That's not normal or good.

No, that is the.

That is bad adult proving that they are more immature than the ones that are calming them down.

Yeah.

Which is the daughter.

If you are so easily riled up, that says more about your character and lack of self control then it does.

Because who's to say what would set you off?

Yeah, even a perceived slight could set you.

If, like, if you're.

If your wife and child are going to have to bear the responsibility of calming you down, like, no, sir, you need to calm down.

And I think too, it's so clearly demonstrated that like, this isn't indicative of the kid's overall character and behavior.

Like, he made a bad decision, which as fortunately, teenagers do.

Well, fortunately, it ended up being one that didn't harm anyone.

Right.

Because I think we can get into a slippery slope with like, oh, well, you know, you're just young and dumb.

Like, you know the whole thing with this like, group chat where people were like, praising, yeah, the little guy with the mustache and things like that.

There is behavior that is so incredibly damaging that's written off as, oh, just, just dumb kids being dumb kids or boys being boys.

But like, fortunately, this was a situation where no one was hurt.

And this was not.

This was actually not indicative of who this kid was as a person.

He let his older brother goad him into something that did not represent him well and he immediately about faced.

Right.

And sustained that character change.

I think that's the most important piece here is this wasn't like, okay, well, you got him to say sorry.

No, he actually changed his behavior.

And it seems like that has been an ongoing better indicator of his overall character over time.

Yeah.

Now instead of creating a situation where like, both kids are now rebelling against their parents, now you have a situation where like, you can actually trust.

You've built trust.

You have a better relationship with the boyfriend, which is what you want.

You want to be able to like, bring things up with the, like not just your daughter, but also the boyfriend.

Like, and he's not going to be super defensive.

He knows he.

You have his best interest at heart.

And two, now the daughter has had an opportunity to respect herself.

Like, if the dad would have just been like, no, I'm handling this like, you're not going to come around my house, blah, blah, blah.

By Offering the opportunity for repair, the daughter now had a chance to flex that muscle of feeling a sense of self worth, demanding self respect and setting a standard for how she is going to allow herself to be treated, which is important because she's an adult.

Yeah.

And like, for all the comments that are like, oh, wow, you're nicer than my dad.

Yes.

But also, maybe your dad's not making very good choices.

Maybe your dad's just not as kind as he should be.

Which is why I'm so happy the.

Standard should be higher.

Yeah.

And that's why I'm so glad that our kids are going to have the experience of you being their dad is because this is exactly the kind of thing that you would do.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I hope so.

You're an amazing dad and I love you.

Okay, Are you ready for the next one?

I'm ready.

Okay.

Any final thoughts before we move on?

Sorry.

I'm getting ready for the next racing.

Racing for impact.

Yep.

Okay, our next story.

Am I the a hole for telling my father in law they won't ever be living with us?

Prior to my wife and I trying for our first we spoke with both sets of parents and said would they have any interest in helping with watching their grandkids until preschool starts?

Both were over the moon, excited, all four fully retired and they all said absolutely.

The plan was to trade off weeks so they know their schedule for booking their own appointments, etc.

Wait, like until they're old enough for preschool.

Yes.

That seems strange.

Flush that thought out for me.

Flush it.

Flesh.

Flush that thought.

Flesh.

Okay, you don't want to hear more on that one.

Apparently.

Flesh.

Like are they talking about like hey grandparents, you take the infant for a week and then you switch the other one.

That's honestly what it sounds like.

Like, okay, you're providing full time child care for this week, you're providing full time childcare for that week.

That's the sense that I get.

Interesting.

Yeah.

I would not agree to that as a grandparent.

Okay.

Wife gets pregnant and around 10 weeks post birth she's getting ready to transition back to work and her parents said they've changed their minds and decided to trav travel more and want to enjoy their elder years.

Okay.

My parents did their absolute best to pick up in laws slack but daily child care was too much with my wife and I working full time.

So we ended up with my parents watching on Mondays and Wednesdays, paying for child care on Tuesdays and Thursdays, my wife and I working half days on Fridays.

To handle that with my parents taking the Friday whenever we needed them to.

They're incredible.

It was very frustrating to have in laws say one thing and do the opposite.

In six years, they've never once watched any of our kids for a single day.

So my wife and I bought a house about a week ago.

They're over checking it out as we're unboxing, and my father in law sees this house has a first floor master with a full bath.

He turns to mother in law and says, oh, thank God we won't have to do stairs.

I said, come again.

Mother in law says of my wife and her two siblings, we are by far doing the best and it would make the most sense for them to live with us as they're in their 70s and a house is becoming too much for them already.

I audibly laughed hard and loud and said, hell would freeze over before you live here.

Which was met by shock from both of them.

I explained that we needed their help and they turned their backs, so we were simply doing the same.

My wife agreed.

She expressed how expensive and how difficult it was with zero help from one side of our village.

That was their call, but we were now returning the favor.

They're incredibly upset and hurt over this revelation.

Were we the a hole for this stance?

I don't think so.

But if the votes are a bloodbath, I'll reconsider as we have this face.

I mean, I think everyone is the a hole here, basically.

Yeah, everyone sounds really.

Everybody sucks.

Like, if you regard this.

If you agree prior to be like, yeah, we're gonna watch your baby during the day so that you guys can go back to work and then back out last minute.

That's not.

That's not great.

Mm.

But you agreed.

I do think it's wild to expect your parents to provide full time child care.

That.

Yes.

And it sounds like you're doing well financially.

I mean, they have two incomes.

Uhhuh.

Well.

And they are like buying this house.

They're making comments.

Oh, we have the space.

Yeah.

Out of all her siblings, she's clearly doing the best.

Right.

I'm like, okay.

Like they were.

Regardless of whether or not it was appropriate to even ask, like, you agreed to it.

Mm.

And like now you're, you know, your children have planned this into their life.

Like, maybe they wouldn't have had kids if.

If that would have been the case or they would have made different plans.

But I think once you agree to something like that and like such a major life decision and like, you really need to follow through.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Because it's like, yes, this young family is now relying on you.

However, they essentially signed their lives away.

So I mean.

Okay, yeah, the in laws.

So I guess going from like, yes, we will provide.

I, like, I can't.

There's not really a word three days.

A week or something like that.

Half of.

Well, that's what the, the wife's parents ended up providing.

I think they did two.

They did two days picking up Fridays as needed.

Right.

Yeah.

And so like it is a really, really big departure going from there's not really a word that's like half of full time like, but basically like half of full time child care to zero.

That's a wild departure.

Yeah.

That I can.

I would probably be really upset if it was like, okay, we were relying on you for half of our child care and now you're giving nothing ever.

Like it says, not a single day.

Now I get the sense that OP is a little bit of a whiny baby.

So I don't know that that's.

I, I don't think there's a reliable narrator here.

I'll be super honest.

But like, yeah, no, I think everyone.

But then like them to assume they're just gonna live with their child.

Oh, that's insane.

Like I have.

I spend time in my grandparents nursing homes when they were there.

I saw my parents have to go through putting their parents in nursing homes.

Yeah.

And how challenging it was because their parents did not want to go.

That would be so tough.

Yeah.

And so it was really traumatic.

And like, as a result, I'm kind of taking the approach of like, all right, yeah.

If I get to the point where I can't live on my own, I'm going to a nursing home.

And like, it seems to me like, this is probably wrong.

You talk about this a lot.

I talk about this because, I mean, it's such a.

It seems like a big deal to me.

I get why.

And like, it seems to me like, okay, you're gonna have a bunch of people all the same age as you.

All your activities are planned for you.

Right.

Like you get food in a cafeteria or whatever.

Pumped about going.

I am.

Retirement.

So excited.

Okay.

This.

Cameron, you do puzzles and cars all day.

Someone cleans your house for you.

Cameron legitimately looked into moving into a retirement.

Like not neighborhood.

Yeah, it was a neighborhood.

Yeah.

But it was like a 65 plus only condo association or something.

But I remember you being so excited.

Yeah, this would be so cool.

I'm like, dude, you're 32.

Yeah.

Not even.

You weren't even 32 then.

You were still 31.

Yeah.

And already had cancer twice.

No.

You hadn't had the second one at that point.

Well, okay, you did have it.

We just didn't know about it.

Right.

Yeah.

The fact about Cam is two months into marriage, right before his.

He was about to finish up, like.

One and a half.

Yeah.

Right before he was about to finish up.

Chemo for brain cancer.

Boop.

Different cancer.

Completely unrelated.

Super fun.

His brain cancer cannot metastasize.

Yeah.

That's good.

At least.

Blood brain barrier, Baby doing its job.

Yeah.

But okay, so you were saying about retirement facility before I derailed things.

Oh, yeah.

Like, it seemed.

I don't understand why, like, people put their parents in retirement communities and have to, like, fight to get their parents there.

Yeah.

And hate the process to do that and then do the exact same thing to their kids.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Which doesn't make any sense.

I'm like, you had such a hard time with this and it sucked and you hated it.

Don't do it to your kids.

Yeah.

Go willingly.

And like, I've been in the situation via brain cancer where, like, I am not aware of my own faculties and abilities.

I know already how I respond.

That is a really good point.

Like, I basically had dementia in my 30s.

I do think, though, you are the most wonderful human being I've ever met.

So you saying, well, if I could do this is the bar.

The bar is high.

You have set the bar very high.

I'm not saying that to blow smoke up your butt.

Okay.

Doesn't.

Who doesn't like doing puzzles in bingo and playing.

You're going to make so many friends.

I don't like in nursing homes or bingo.

Oh, my gosh.

I love being constantly surrounded by people.

Sounds like you didn't have a regular college experience, though.

I didn't.

I didn't go to.

Living in the dorms in college was so much fun.

Yes.

You're constantly surrounded by people.

And, like, sometimes I am an introvert.

Like, sometimes I do.

Like, just sitting home.

I like.

I don't really like leaving the house.

No, you don't.

And it makes me a little bit crazy.

But I'm conflicted, though, because I also like people.

I think we're the same, but I don't like leaving.

Like, I'm also quite introverted, but also quite extroverted.

And it depends entirely on the situation.

What is that called?

I think I saw something.

I was reading Ambivert.

Ambert.

Yeah.

That's what it is.

I was just over here making up my own terminology.

Make up your own words.

It's fine.

Oh, I got a recording of Coulson saying ridiculous this morning.

Yes.

So our 4 year old heard me say the word ridiculous the other day and just, like, co.

Opted it immediately.

But here.

Oh, I guess I can't play it on my phone while we're recording, but it's, like, ridiculous.

Ridiculous.

He's so cute.

I love him so much.

He's very cute.

Oh, my gosh, he's fun.

He read the word raft yesterday.

Yeah.

That was crazy.

Like, all by himself, like, with some encouragement, but, like, he sounded it out and then read it.

His reading app that we use fully just went from, like, zero to 700.

They went from like, okay, I'm gonna slowly say the word mitt to like, okay, here's the word raft.

Sink or swim, kid.

Like, grab onto that raft.

I told.

When I dropped him off at preschool this morning, we told his teacher.

I was like, hey, yeah, Coulson, tell.

Tell Ms. Terry what you read, what letter you read yesterday.

And he's like, raft.

And so she's like, okay, Coulson, what is a raft?

And he's like, like, a boat.

And she's like, oh, okay.

Like, a boat.

Passed the test.

Take that.

No, it was funny.

He's like, no, he.

He's so smart.

He's so cute.

Anyways.

Okay.

Yeah.

Anyway, the story.

So, like, assuming you're just gonna go live with your children.

Like, okay, I had to live with my parents.

I don't live with my kids.

I don't want that.

Like, why would you.

No.

Live in a nursing home?

Go.

This is my.

This is my psa.

Go to a nursing home willingly for the sake of your children.

It doesn't have to be bad.

It doesn't have to be bad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe I would feel differently if I had had the whole, like, dorm experience.

But, hey, if we end up in a nursing home, we'd be.

You'd be with me.

Yeah, because I've called dibs on dying first.

So you're saying I'm gonna have to go by myself?

No, no, we've.

Okay, so here's.

Here's the legalities of our arrangement.

I have dibs on dying first.

But what we've decided on is that we're gonna die holding hands like the couple in the notebook.

Naturally, natural death.

Natural deaths.

Just, like.

Just, like, snuggle up like we do and just go hang out with Jesus.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is A tough one.

But I think, no, I think everyone's.

Handling this very important bit of a butt here.

Like in no, in no world should you be completely entitled to someone else's time.

Like, things change, situations change.

Going from 100 to 0 or 50 of child care covered to 0% of child.

That's what I was trying to say earlier.

Going from covering 50 of child care to 0% is wild.

But also expecting your in laws to provide 50% and then begrudging them when that's not what's provided is also kind of wild.

Just expecting that you're going to move in to the point that like you're scoping out the place and you're like, ah, I'll take that room, which is the main bedroom.

So they're fully in this house looking at the main bedroom, going, ah, that will do nicely.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

That's crazy behavior.

That is wild.

Absolutely not.

Lots of finger wagging happening over here.

Yeah.

Oh, no, no, no, no.

My grandpa used to always joke, like when I bought my first house, he was still alive and he was like, oh yeah, you could have your.

What, what would he call it?

I think he would call it like an in law suite, but it was like a, like a grand grandparents suite.

He was like, yeah, I'll just come live with you.

Like, he wasn't talking about living with his, with his son, he's talking about living with his grandson.

Oh, you're like, oh, you know, in.

Okay, well he's.

Enough onto it that he like doubled the size.

Cool.

If you would have built his own room.

Hey, go for it, man.

He was 80.

He wouldn't have been able to do it at that point.

Quite the undertaking.

Yeah.

He also lives in a different country.

He's also not alive anymore.

No, you said he lives in a different country.

No, he lived.

He lived in a different country.

Lived.

All right, let's see what some of these comments say, shall we?

Yeah.

Okay.

I think they're gonna say everyone sucks.

Okay, first comment.

Nta, not the a hole.

All these folks saying you should not laugh are missing the part where they walked in your house, talked between themselves about the appropriateness of your master bedroom for themselves without ever discussing it with you or your spouse.

The audacity.

Anytime they try to bring it up again, you just need to say the audacity the two of you have trying to claim a room and a house.

You didn't pay $0.01 toward and didn't even have a conversation with us about before we purchased it.

The freaking audacity of you two.

You both did good calling out these entitled goobers.

Goobers.

I haven't heard.

I like that.

Goober.

The kids haven't asked for that song in a while.

No, they haven't.

We should play it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I. I mean, I agree with that.

The audacity is very high.

But his response also was very poor.

Mm.

Like, you also don't return the favor in.

In that way.

That's not how you solve problems as an adult.

I think it would make a little bit more sense to me if it was the parents who had provided 50% of the child care.

Because, like, one of the comments here in response to the one I just read is.

Exactly.

Especially since there are two sets of parents and they just assumed that they would be the set that gets to live with their children.

No thought for if her parents needed a place.

The parents actually involved in their lives now.

Not at all.

To say that providing 50% of child care, that entitles you to be taken care of in your old age monetarily and all of that.

I actually don't 100 know how I feel about children being obligated to care for their aging parents completely.

I don't know.

It's a complex topic.

Cameron, what are your thoughts on this?

What.

What would you want to do as you age?

I want to go live in a nursing home.

Really?

Yeah.

First, I'm gonna go live in her nursing home now.

Sounds awesome.

To be real fun.

Some real fun old people.

There's probably some old people that really suck, but, yeah, there's some people that suck everywhere, so.

Yeah, that's true.

You know how much fun, like, old people in a nursing home would have if a young person lived there with them?

I think most of them would hate it.

They'd be like, oh, you young whippersnapper with your long hair and your facial piercings.

What are you, a girl?

I would.

I would have a blast.

I.

You are extremely amicable.

Old people love me.

You are a delightful human being.

Okay.

Like, oh, look at those tattoos.

So we should.

The story.

We should probably begin to wrap it up.

Guess how long we've been recording?

Like, two hours.

Yes.

Did you plug.

I mean, I knew what time it was.

I did.

I looked at the clock.

I don't.

I don't exactly know where we're starting.

No, hold on.

If you had to guess without knowing what time it was, how Long would you think we've been recording this episode?

Just the Reddit one.

Yeah.

Did we stop in between?

Yes.

Oh, an hour, hour and a half.

Really?

Yes.

That's long.

We took some twists and turns along the way.

Yeah.

But maybe the real Reddit stories we made along the way.

That's like our version of a Rick roll.

Like, you just do that to me.

I do that to you all the time.

Yeah, you just did that to me.

We've got so many inside jokes.

Yeah.

That are just like, they're the best.

But I love that the kids start to, like, pick up on them and, like, engage in them, even if they have no idea what they mean.

Yeah.

They're just like, yes.

We're co opting the silliness and I love it.

Yeah.

Our kids are so silly.

They're so fun, so happy.

Okay, hilarious.

Well, we got through two stories in.

An hour and a half.

We'll have to work on it.

Well, we did have that one there that we're not.

We're just gonna cut out.

Yeah.

It was really depressing.

I thought it was going to be a thought provoker, but it kind of was depressing.

So I think I'll just stick with goofy ones for now, and then maybe we'll group a couple where it's like an advice episode or something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We didn't even really talk about how we would have handled this one, but we can.

We can save that for next time.

So I would have volunteered to go live in a nursing home.

Same nursing home.

You're fun.

I like.

You're fun.

All right.

Do you want to go make a great time?

Yeah, this was fun.

Hey, do you want to, like, thanks.

For having me on your podcast?

Thanks for being married to me.

You're welcome.

And being on my podcast.

I was the one who asked you.

You did, technically, yeah.

You didn't ask me.

You know, you just kind of invited yourself.

It's more of just, like, you just assume it's going to happen.

Yeah.

It's like, what is that?

You're manifesting.

No.

You just manifested being on my podcast.

No.

Getting married.

What?

Just assumed we were going to get married, so then I married you.

Oh, you married me for my podcast?

That didn't exist.

No.

I think we're confused.

No.

Thank you, husband, for joining me today on this.

Well, you live in my house.

Inaugural Reddit story episode thing.

We live in the same house.

Yeah, we do.

What about it is I don't have to hold a microphone in front of my face?

No.

You don't.

I'm glad to hold a microphone in front of my face for you.

Oh, that's cute.

I was being sassy, but you were being sweet.

Hey, should we go have some lava cake and then go to bed?

Because we're old people.

Yes.

Okay, cool.

And then we're gonna go to the nursing home.

Say it one more time.

Cruising him.

I know where you sleep.

Yeah, well, I'm gonna take some town up.

I'll sleep through whatever you do.

Okay.

Thank you guys for joining us.

If you made it this far, more power to you, and we would love to do more episodes like this.

I just really enjoy being around this human being that God has placed in my path.

Anyone else is on my side.

I would love to hear about it, because I haven't met a single person.

I have not met anyone else.

I feel like that time that you explained quantum physics to me for, like, 30 minutes, and I kept asking you to stop and you wouldn't stop.

I didn't understand.

I thought you were asking questions about it.

Yes.

My question was, can you please stop?

Oh, that was funny.

That was a funny time.

But I'm honestly, I've never met anyone else.

I really want to know.

Am I the only one you're still talking about?

Narciss, I. I. I've so desperate to find another person to talk about this with.

I remember bringing it up with you once, and I was like, you've got to be.

You've got to agree with me.

And you were like, no way.

And I got.

I was sad.

I was disappointed.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Well.

Well, at we4, hopefully have a lot more time.

I should talk to my parents about it.

Oh, my gosh.

Shut up about the sun.

Shut up about the sun.

Oh, the painting is separating from the frame over there.

Oh, no.

Okay, well.

Okay, let's.

Let's round this off here.

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I just need to send me to the nursing home.

Better work that she's so old.

Put you out to pasture.

As long as it's near a nursing home.

Okay, I'm calling it there.

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